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16-03-2013 There's a similar piece, attributed to Bill Gates, with the same condescending tone, popular among parents. It turns out, it wasn't written by Bill Gates.From the point of view of the teenagers, I love the definitions under the entry of parents in the Urban Dictionary. |
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16-03-2013
it turns out, it wasn't written by Bill Gates. haha! reminds me of this:
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16-03-2013 I've noticed this thinking even more so since the economy has gotten worse (I live in the U.S.). Some young people who are college educated can't find even entry level jobs in their chosen fields and everyone expects them to be happy with working at McDonald's, flipping burgers. What do the older generation think these kids went college for? Apparently, the idea of standards and expecting a some what decent quality of life, especially after working to get a degree like everyone says you must, has completely gone out the window. |
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16-03-2013  Ahhh, you express yourself so well... how I envy you! But my envy gets compensated by the relief I feel seeing my own convictions nakedly laid with no effort on my side... (Next time, I will make an attempt at rhyme)  |
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16-03-2013 (little correction on the first line)* so DAMN well (in fact) It occurs to me that there could be a connection between that skill and aversion to lying... It makes a certain sense to me. A river flows more easily if it has known no dam in its course. (no quotation marks, coz it's mine, or some muse's who happened to pass by) |
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16-03-2013
It occurs to me that there could be a connection between that skill and aversion to lying... i think you're definitely onto something there no quotation marks, coz it's mine brilliant |
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16-03-2013 Even if life was a gift, the idea that people should be thankful and do as they are told to out of gratitude, would still be nonsensical.No one asked to be born. And non-existent people don't miss out on anything. |
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19-03-2013
True, athough still, precious gifts sort of oblige the one accepting them to something, quite often... But life isn't a gift, it's an imposition. |
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17-03-2013 The monkeys who love that letter are the same discontented monkeys who demand jobs (any job, screw the consequences), who expect endless economic growth, who struggle incessantly to have a child when they learn they are infertile, who become indignant when their child does not want to follow in their footsteps… The list goes on.The discontent preaching “be content with what you have” to children. Can you say hypocrite? |
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19-03-2013 Yes indeed. That's the point. An imposition can never be a gift.Reminds me of a quote by a comedian: "Life is like bestiality, it's not for everyone." |
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19-03-2013
haha. definitely not for everyone! |
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20-03-2013 Nancy Scheper-Hughes has chronicled the lives of the miserable and unwanted, especially the ones stuck with obligations they never asked for. Her Wikipedia page gives some shocking examples. |
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21-03-2013
Thanks, here is the link ! |
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24-03-2013 This Ranevskaya quote, how does it sound in the original Russian? Жизнь это прыжок из пизды в могилу? |
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24-03-2013
yes «Р–РёР·РЅСЊ — это затяжной прыжок РёР· РїРёР·РґС‹ РІ могилу.» |
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25-03-2013 You've well explored the connection between antinatalism and the absurdity of parenting, something which I totally agree with but never really made the connection in the way you have...Stellar work, as usual. You are one of the great thinkers of antinatalism. By the way, I don't know if you're interested, but we're trying to start an antinatalist forum over at http://antinatalism.yuku.com/ I hope we can create a community where ANs can support each other and discuss the important issues... It would be great to see you there, Irina! |
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26-03-2013
Thank you, Francois! )) There is already a community in facebook groups Antinatalism and Efilism. A public forum wouldn't hurt, of course, but not on a free domain - one day we might just get kicked out (for whatever reason) and all the work will be lost because people won't know where we moved. |
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27-03-2013 I've been re-reading this post coz I like it so much... and I've spotted a tiniest something I don't totally agree with(I wasn't looking for it, ok?, just happened...). Later on many will realize all this struggle - often made worse by health problems, accidents, tragic losses - is only leading them to their inevitable deaths. MANY??? If it were many, shouldn't be there more ANs all over the planet? Ok ok, maybe it is indeed MANY, and the number of young people who, after this realization, turn on their heels and plainly ignore it for selfish reasons is greater than I initially calculated... Point granted.  |
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27-03-2013 (correction in the the third paragraph)* shouldn't there be (sorry) and watermelon, just in case |
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27-03-2013
MANY??? If it were many, shouldn't be there more ANs all over the planet? I don't know, ask all those atheists who are having kids anyway.)) People realize it and then use 'life is a journey' and whatnot, some turn to religion to proclaim death isn't the end. ANs are the minority who do not try to put a lipstick on a pig. |
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