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I would rather have my ignorance than another man's knowledge, because I have so much more of it....
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11-10-2012 I think it is you who is perpetuating the game. Helping others, not killing oneself and "doing things in the here and now" is precisely what "perpetuating the game" is. Nice twist there...There is no better solution but non-existence of everything. |
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11-10-2012 I just realized that you completely misconstrued my point. You thought the "go kill yourself" comment was meant as a pro-natalist insult when in fact it was meant as a general affirmation that everything in life is wasteful and needs to be shut down.Learn to read next time, ok? |
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11-10-2012 "Learn to read next time, ok?"How about you learn how to be a compassionate human being. Then I'll learn to read. Deal? I am not propagating the games. I am against the games. Here, have some reading: http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/what-are-games-conditions/ |
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11-10-2012 You're not? Really? The way you cherry picked one part of my posts and twisted it against me in a completely incorrect way is pretty insulting.The only thing you can do in the here and now is stop procreating. The other things you were talking about require the erasure of capitalism. Me mentioning suicide concerns a rational response to this absurd slaughterhouse called life. Compassionate human being? By advocating complete extermination of all life, I am being compassionate. No one suffers in non-existence you know? |
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11-10-2012 It's not compassionate to tell people that killing themselves is the only solution to suffering, no.(and this is coming from someone who is radically pro-suicide: I agree that suicide is always justified, but that doesn't mean you have to be an ass about it) |
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11-10-2012 Again, I am not saying you SHOULD go and kill themselves but I think that its the most rational solution given the END GOAL of AN: ending suffering.Just as we argue that no one should ever procreate and let these unborn stay in non-existence, it not a leap at all to say the same of people who are suffering severely to kill themselves because it ends up in the same state: non-existence. Perhaps it wouldn't work for a lot of people which is fine. But I think for people as disappointed as me who cant stand any degree of optimism, don't believe in progress given the human nature and don't want to continue existing within this metaphysical and social structure, suicide is a perfect solution. Others who think it is worthwhile staying alive can keep thinking that, no one is stopping that. But I can tell you for sure that I am the sort of person who is so completely rational that I simply will not fool myself with false promises and false hope and false everything just to make myself feel better. Life is hell and I think it should be shut down. For me, suicide is the best solution. Can I do it? Probably not because of the survival instinct. Should I do it? Absolutely. Given my views, its the only option. |
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11-10-2012 Yea yea... you're so "completely rational" but at the same time you know very well that's not true: like most of us you've got the "survival instinct"... and all sorts of other instincts and cognitive biases mucking everything up.Rationality is little more than a defense mechanism to rationalize our "choices" and beliefs to ensure we're not proven wrong. We only progress at all because various people rationalize different views, and in the end the one that's most well-defended wins out... But it's really just a pretense to make us feel better about people who disagree with us. We're rational, they're irrational, we're sane and they're crazy, etc. Everyone believes that, even people whom I consider insanely irrational (natalists, Christian fundies, fascists, whatever). |
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11-10-2012 Which is precisely why life should be eradicated: no mind - no foolish ideas of what's rational or not rational.We already know what life is and why AN is the only rational position to have. Everything else are figments of imagination. Whichever way you argue, life is the way science tells us it is and that's the closest rational approximation you could have. Non-existence is truly the best solution to resolve all issues. |
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11-10-2012 Oh, in the name of holy fucking Bob, here we go again...I've said all I had to say on the topic. I'm sorry you don't get it, but I am not going to turn in circles with ya. Have fun on the fixed idea carousel. |
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11-10-2012 You haven't really argued for anything here.. all you said is that my suggestion to kill myself is non-compassionate and that life is not a gift and since we are here we are supposed to spread the message and help people. Oh you also mentioned the hierarchy and how capitalism is destroying the world.Did I miss anything? |
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