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Most of the time the impression is that somehow, in some weird way, SOME parts of it still apply while others should be ignored.
All right, why not... the only problem being... who is there to know WHICH ONES and why?
Here is a good table illustrating the contradicting quotes in the bible on this subject http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/otlaw.html
Couldn't resist swearing a little in this video. But hey, some book is calling for my and my friends extermination and I'm not even supposed to express my emotions about that? They keep yapping about religious peoples feelings. What are they a privilleged group? We all have feelings and mine are hurt when others take the genocidal hateful book from our dumb ancestors seriously and insist we study it in schools and on tv.
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Alejandro
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22-09-2011
IВґd love to debate you. I disagree with your view. You show a lack of understanding about biblical issues. You applie your narrow concept of justice to the biblical concept, though there are several differences between the narrow concept of justice in humanВґs view and GodВґs. If you are willingly to accept a debate just writte to my email, please.
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![]() Irina |
23-09-2011
I do not debate privately, over email (even if I did, you haven't left an address to emai you at). Why don't you simply list your objections here? So far you've used the 'finite can not understand the infinite' argument. Why not just add another one of the kind - 'god works in mysterious ways' - and we can all just stop thinking and talking about religion? Certainly makes life easier for popes and preachers, relieving them of the neccessity to explain the atrocities and injustices in their scriptures. |
Alejandro
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22-09-2011
Old Testament still valid or not?
I forgat to answer you. Answer: Yes, the principles of the law are still valid. The spirit of the law is still alive. |
Spencer
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08-01-2012
I can see in your eyes that you have given a great deal of thought to this and coming to these conclusions have pained you.
I sympathize with you completely. Let me give you my take. I believe in God and I pray everyday, and overall try to live a healthy spiritual life. However, like you I came to the same conclusion that the Bible is not only not a holy book, it's completely unhealthy for people. The problems start almost at the very beginning in Genesis and just don't stop. I realized however, after careful meditation, that God exists. I believe (and this is purely faith) he/she exists in everyone and is loving, and if we listen carefully God tells us the truth of life, gives us direction and fulfills are basic needs. I just do not believe that God is the God that is written about in the Bible. That God is angry, not loving, violent, confused, and etc. In the end I learned that I could not trust something that came from man (In this case the Bible, don't get me started on the Church). I also realized that the whole concept of the Bible itself is pretty suspect. Think about it, when teaching a child (and I'm rather confidently assuming that compared to God we are like children) do you explain yourself and your ways simply and slowly to the child, or do you lay before him/her a 5000 page, densely written, highly contradictory manual? Sounds like something set up to confuse and control people if you want my opinion. My hope for you is that you will listen to your spirit and heart to find God. He will show you the way that YOU need. Not what a bunch of religious leaders think. I also think God was working through you to post your video, as I think the Bible has created far more problems for God than it ever has good things. Finally, rather unashamedly I would like to say that you are a VERY beautiful woman, physically, vocally and mentally. Best of luck with your modeling and I look forward to seeing other videos in your blog -S |
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08-01-2012
Thanks for stopping by and commenting, Spencer. And for the compliment. I think I get the place where you are right now. Not a bad one! I've been there for a while. First I was a believer in the god of the bible, then - in the more abstract god you're describing. I'm rarely sure of anything these days, but with a pretty high degree of certainty I can say that there is no way for me to come back to those days of faith. I know that whoever wants to find god - finds it. Some people feel his presence, his love, his ...whatever. The ability to feel things that aren't there works like a charm in people. Some are certain and truly feel their spouse loves them, thei 'feel their love', while that may be not true at all. The feeling is real, however, no doubt about it. But the feeling of something being true is no evidence, even on a subjective personal level it's not. My hope for you is that you will listen to your spirit and heart to find God. Even if I met him/her/it tomorrow, I wouldn't ask to shake their hand. Earth populated with organisms surviving by eating each other, sometimes eating alive? I'm totally unimpressed. So why even look for 'a designer' of it all. I don't wear my rose-tinted glasses any more (so I'm not sure you're going to like many of my other videos ot blog posts). Best of luck to you, too. |
John
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19-03-2012
I enjoyed reading this post and the ensuing debate. Emotions obviously strong in both: everyone representing their feeling, and the reasons that justify it.
I looked at your last comment, Irina, on 'rose tinted glasses', and I thought about myself. I thought, the idea of everything being good in this world, is a delusion in itself. It seems, the first delusion, that children are fed by their parents - out of their parents wish to create this 'perfect' world for their child.. perhaps to sustain their own egoic delusion of human importance. But it couldn't be a more disbalanced lie. So of course we take off our rose tinted glasses! The idea of the universe 'caring' about us or our well being is absurd. We just are. We are here. The idea of God, must be, if anything, the awe inspiring concept representing the mass of what we do not know. Vicious, indifferent, beautiful, infinite. Why does the idea of God have to be this childish story originating in the parable of Genesis? I think that's a human-centric, egoic, small-minded story, written for the masses perhaps, who couldn't be expected to understand more. It is known, after all, that less intelligent people are a threat to the more intelligent ones. They are unpredictable, generally more brutish and short-sighted, fear-triggered, competitive and destructive. It makes sense that a few intelligent people who had a sense of awe in the universe crafted some of these stories to be spread and told to others among tribes, to give the less intelligent a 'faith' to grab onto. Through this they could dispel violence, even though they couldn't convey their own original sense of love and awe that would do this naturally. Then, I can see how they could have become horribly corrupt, once they had gained control of the masses through the implement of religion. |
John
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19-03-2012
PS - I think certainly the old testament shows the barbaric roots of this population control through dictates 'decreed by God'.
I agree that the text has to be taken as a whole for its overarching mentality and meaning. Picking and choosing is simply manipulating for one's own personal gain. Nothing new among humans right? Anyone who follows it today is ridiculous, in my opinion. It's nothing more than a bloody historical record, not to follow, but to remind us of the mistakes of the past. I think real scholars kept this in writing, not for the neo-evangelical perversion, and frankly, low-IQ interpretation we see today, but as a reminder of the past; historical record. I have wondered a lot about the old testament and the new and why these two seemingly disconnected documents are slapped together in one common text. |