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The Hostel, Martyrs, Passions of the Christ...
Movies I wish I had never seen.
Actually, I haven't finished watching the 'passions' and walked out of the theater. I was btw still a believer at the time of its release. But the movie was hardly concentrated on a spiritual side, unless one considers watching pieces of meat being ripped off of human body a spiritual experience.
The Hostel i've seen a couple of years ago and was skipping the torture scenes. But beyond the torture scenes, there was not much too it. Disgusting pointless violence.
Sort of like it could be in real life - ruthless, disgusting and pointless.
Such movies feel more like documentaries. But those at least have a purpose of educating viewers about the events that took place.
What's the point of fiction movies that feel like documentaries?
What was the point of the 'Martyrs'? I was expecting a good revenge kind of movie. I saw another torture p0rn.
Started off intriguing, but then I had to keep skipping good portions of the second part just to be able to finally find out what the f*** this whole tribute to spanish inquisition was about.
The plot turned out to be pretty lame. A bunch of people, some secret organization, has been torturing young girls for more than 17 years in order to find out 'what's on the other side', what happens after you die. Apparently, they've decided that the testimonies of tortured half to death girls will shed some light on the subject.
They wanted the near death experience. As if there weren't enough of those already! As if those were reliable! As if those who they've been subjecting to anormous pain would have told them the truth even if they saw it!
And the girls who 'never made it to the martyr stage', who broke and started seeing things, who were just victims and weren't good for their purpose, why were they still keeping them enchained and not simply killing them? Seriously. You call that a plot? What a load of crap!
Your regular pоrn movie has an uncomplicated plot of the similar nature. A man walks in to deliver a pizza and the woman invies him for a coffee - it's a plot all right! A secret group of folks who genuinly thought their victims will gladly share the ultimate secret with them once they have nothing left to loose is a plot, too, by those standards. If you say so...
For example, Wolf Creek, pretty violent movie, although still not nearly as much, at least had a good, realistic plot.
But forget these movies, I'm willing to admit there are a few sick directors who like creating this kind of shit. My concern is for the world where people enjoy watching sadistic scenes.
Where the plot is just an excuse to celebrate an agony of a living human being. Same way a plot in pоrn movies is just a frame for the main action.
Btw, films like Hostel, Martyrs and Passions of the Christ - oh and another sick piece of trash 'The Human Centipede' which I haven't finished watching as well - are much more dangerous for childrens psyche than any regular non-violent p0rn movie. For f***s sake, in the end of the latter everyone is at least still alive, not bleeding or missing body parts!
Martyrs is on IMDB and having a 7(!!) out of 10 rating. Never trusting that again! I just didn't realize so many people tolerated long explicit violent scenes so well. Will bear that in mind next time I see a horror movie rated.
I wish they made 2 separate categories instead of one apparently vague 'horror'. One would be the horrors that make you feel scared, and the other one - those that turn your stomach making you want to puke and never eat again.
Sure, we are aggressive creatures, aggression is in our genes, it helps us survive and achieve what we need. But sadism?? That's just over the edge. That's a perversion.
I am just wondering, who do those people identify with when they are watching someone being mutilated? You can't keep watching someone being tortured for a long time if you empathize with a victim, can you?
Were so many people abused as kids that they now enjoy seeing others being hurt? Or were they desensitized by modern violent media?
I don't know what exactly the problem is with those who enjoy tоrture p0rn, I know this much - this can't be good.
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Irina |
09-12-2011
Always happy to see a thoughtful comment on my blog. Thanks for contributing. Very true, whatever gets widely spread gets widely accepted, regardless of whether its moral or not from any point of view. So since sadistic personality disorder isn't a disorder anymore, then I guess its a sadistic personaliy type now A sadist-next-door type. How cute! Sure, being subjected to or having witnessed abuse in childhood can result in sadistic traits formation. Thats why I wondered if that many people encountered violence early in life. Although, in all fairness, 'many' is a relative term, I mean, reading a forum thread and finding more than 50% of comments being 'great stuff' - thats way too many for me, but I don't have an objective data on what percentage of people today enjoy watching sadistic scenes. |
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02-03-2012
I guess most people who watch those movies don't really enjoy it, but do it more as some kind of juvenile pissing contest, to see who can endure the most perversities and is therefore the toughest. It's not the enjoyment while watching, it's the "wow, I made it" afterwards.
At least that's what I hope |
Irina |
02-03-2012
Id like that to be true, and partly it may be, especially for teenagers, but I've seen people asking psychologists questions online about whether its ok that they get off watching someone being tortured in movies. |
someone
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03-03-2012
Ooookaayyy... that seems to be something different then. Well, at least it's better watching such a movie than doing it yourself, but still... all in all I guess the prevalence of such movies does indicate that something is wrong with society in general and the people You mentioned in particular.
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30-05-2012
My guess is: women-hatred.
When that whole trend started, Roger and Ebert gave a general review which you may find interesting: http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/09/a-feminist-movie-review-siskel-ebert-1980/ |
martin
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09-08-2013
I share your disgust with these kind of movies. I like horror movies and I like movies which are violent if it fits the story but looking at suffering of beings for entertaining seems very "strange" to me. Especially considering how many people watch these type of movie.
"Women-hatred" as a reason for this - as one commentator stated - seems to easy. Many women are watching these movies and I believe that the torture happens primarily to women because violence against women triggers stronger emotional reactions than violence against men. There is another trend: shows where people are forced to do disgusting things like eat insects - one of them had extremely high ratings just a few months ago in Germany. So, I think that people just like to watch other people degraded and humiliated - and torture is just the most extreme form of this. Perhaps these people are (subconsciously) aware of how bad their lives actually are and are somehow comforted by looking at somehow whose life is even worse. But I think that the truth is darker: when one looks at how things like torture by states against alleged terrorists is approved by large parts of the population, these movies are probably a sign of mental regression where urges like cruelty - which were suppressed by civilization - resurface. |
Irina |
12-08-2013
thanks for your thoughts, martin now i'd rather not think about this subject for much longer. sleep deprivation is also a form of torture, and i've been having some troubles sleeping for several days in a row. well, getting better now)) also seeing funny dreams with detective/romantic subjects. strange |
Other reason is that some people like dominating p0rnn but it is usually dominating and sadistic - so it creates a conditioned response. Violence - sex, sex - violence... You know what I mean.
Ok enough for now.