Comments to The Official Introductory Guide to Life

Although not in the nefarious sci-fi sense you're talking about, this is pretty much a perfect description of the reality in which we do live.

This is what I'd have said if I wasn't that lazy. And not that I'd be the firt either, I think I heard Inmendham saying something to this effect that he as a sentient being is constantly being re-born, so his name isn't 'Gary' and he looks different and whatnot, but essentially he's going to feel much the same. Also, when you think how much our personality depends on the environment we're grown in, you kind of start thinking that - as strange as it sounds - you could have been anybody (had you been in anybody else's circumstances instead of your own).

Neh, I'm going to continue being lazy now and go watch a movie instead of elaborating on this topic.

Right, we can't do anything about this hypothetical scenario if it is true.

But in a lot of ways, global antinatalism falls under the same category. There's very little reason to think that one day most people will be lead by pure logic, seeking above all the truth whatever it might be, instead of using their minds to rationalize the most comfortable and pleasant way to live their lives.

Even if we look at the rise of 'atheism' or 'secularism', seen around that in the developed European countries religion is on the decline. Sounds great. But do people actually become skeptics and rational thinkers valuing above all evidence and not relying on 'feel-good beliefs'? Don't think so, and just by opening this wiki link we find confirmation:

"Sweden is one of the world's most secular and irreligious nations, partly because many Swedish people define themselves as irreligious but spiritual people." (read: same bullshit under a different label. As in, do not believe in Jesus but in a cuddly just Universe that cares about us valuable, meaningful human beings and has a wise plan so let's carry on as usual, it must all make sense somehow) Of course, it is still better than Dark Ages, much better, but it also reveals that there are aspects of religion people can never abolish, they can just transform them and find them elsewhere: meaning, higher justice, that it all isn't for nothing, that we're not just specks of dust to be blown away. I guess, Dawkin's soothing explanation that we're made of stars isn't soothing enough, hehe.

Trumpers aside, sometimes sheeple can be led to do the right things for the wrong reasons, and with human extinction and AN, that is probably good enough, don't you think?

Would be, but thant's one thing that is drastically diferent from all the rest of the examples. One thing to convince people to treat each other differently, to co-habitate in a new manner, quite another - to get them to swallow the pill of 'there's no meaning to your petty life, don't have any offsprings and disappear into the void as if you've never been, all your strugles in this life have beeen for naught'. No matter that this is going to happen anyway. Psychological defense system won't let most people even entertain such depresive ideas. Like they don't deal with own mortality. Everyone knows this is true, but most keep living whole lives pushing this to the back of their minds, this most inevitable, most true and certain fact of their life. Incidentally, antinatalism reminds people of death (while not promising any after-life), and this is one of the reasons it won't ever be popular. People by and large don't have the guts to accept the reality of them perishing forever and being forgotten. For fuck's sake, I know many psychologists who themselves can't face their own mortality.