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29-04-2017 I happen to agree. Men who see women as objects can now fuck actual objects rather than take out their issues on real women. I feel like this is a win-win. If some men or women just want a sex bot for the fuck of it (haha), I don't see how it should be something to shame them for.As for Niger and those issues of fast overpopulation, many people appear to be worried about Islam spreading in Europe, and I find that interesting... dunno if you've noticed on the Internet world. Apparently Muslims pop out more babies than native Europeans and Americans, with our declining rates in Christianity and decreased adherence to its norms... thank God for that, LOL. I know one female Muslim doctor was arrested here just recently in America for performing female genital mutilation on newborn girls. The joys of religion. Also, it's funny that our president and the Pope are getting along well with Egypt's president, who is said to be at least somewhat better for women's issues than the previous leader, although I think he passed a policy that requires divorce to be decided on by both the man and the woman, so so much for freedom there. In case you didn't know, Egypt is a country where allegedly 99% of women have been sexually harassed. (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/egypt-99-women-have-been-sexually-harassed-180951726/) And yes, by the way, female genital mutilation is commonplace there. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/middleeast/egypt-female-genital-mutilation/) Let's be honest though, I doubt Hillary would've stood up for women's rights in these countries either, and I never heard of these issues being discussed in feminist circles on the Internet. Anyways, I'm getting a bit off topic, but I think we can both agree that these discussions are more serious than men and women fucking robots, which does appear to be one of the West's greatest worries, of all things! Priorities, right? It's nice to see you're still posting too, and thought it wouldn't hurt to join in. |
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29-04-2017
Right, in general, Western civilization is slowly committing suicide. Breeding less, including creating sex robots that will make accidental pregnancies and births even less probable (a portion, I think even a large portion of all births at all times are the results of unplanned pregnancies), welcoming large flocks of highly religious and rapidly breeding people and being tolerant of their intolerances. The way I look at it is perhaps this is what should happen after all. Leave this crazy planet to those who are mindlessly happy to populate it. Asking secular educated people to have more babies just so the bright minded folks of the future could help out the idiots - neh. Give them the wheel, let them drive, exit the vehicle. Let the Idiocracy develop. |
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29-04-2017 I swear, China was onto something with that one child policy our countries criticized not so long ago. Funny, we acknowledge that overpopulation is a serious problem, but when a country tries to do something serious about it, that's also a problem. Can't say there's much hope for Nigeria anytime soon though... apparently it ranks highest in fertility rates, and will for a while.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate I think of Carlin talking about how Americans turned this natural landscape into a big shopping mall. That seems like a future far, far away for Nigeria. Maybe you're right that this may be the best solution, just reproduce less and less until the inevitable happens... the Idiocracy, so to speak. I still feel like we should try to protect our countries, or try to for a while, to die out as peacefully as possible, if that's even possible. Trying to outbreed people in a baby making war though? Talk about adding fuel to the fire! I'm starting to feel quite bad for South Africa, and hope it's not a sign of the future. I think they tried to modernize so quickly, desegregating and even legalizing same-sex marriage, but the laypeople in the country don't seem like they were ready, and I think they're due for a serious race war. If life for all of us gets worse elsewhere and all else fails, guess we'll have to move to some remote islands somewhere... New Zealand's looking good to me, a little earthquake or volcano sounds nice by comparison. Everyone's gonna try to flee to Australia first! |
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30-04-2017
Yeah, moving to Australia or New Zealand is sort of as close to this as it gets: Can't really leave it, so at least you want to move as far away from as many people as possible, lol.
Funny, we acknowledge that overpopulation is a serious problem, but when a country tries to do something serious about it, that's also a problem. Exactly. No, they're trying to give out contraception, like in that Niger, for example, but they can't make people use that. If they want all those children, what are you gonna do? Gather money to feed them all when the poverty turns into a next hunger... |
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30-04-2017 Oh I am sure these third wave feminists will not only see the usage of this things (yes you read right, i am objectifying sex robots here..yes i know i am a horrible person) as misogynistic or part of 'rape culture', but also the training of them. I mean machine learning is basically statistics/probability/pattern matching. Such algorithms work like this: you feed them them with a lot of training data and if you provide them with new data they they should be able to tell you what something is, or how to do something, based on this training data (or the interferences they make from them). For many tasks that involve many features (or datapoints) an approach with multilayered neural networks (aka deep learning) works pretty well. So I guess they will use something like that. The disadvantage: Deep learning algorithms need a lot of samples to perform well. And by a lot I mean, many millions and more. So I think they could train it, by letting it watch millions and millions of porn movies (misogynistic and sexist, of course!). I think the training of sex robots will probably also involve something like reinforced learning: So it needs to fuck a lot and the users need to rate its performance (i can imagine these feminists are already getting a stroke here).quote:
So then there's this lady who worries that this new invention - where men prefer to stay away from women - is part of rape culture! My (wrong?) impression is that they hate everything that keeps man away from them and there self-pity guilt inducing power games. So it's no surprise that many of them also seem to hate sex workers, woman who don't see themselves als victims (traitors!) and also attractive woman in general. quote:
"...women and men alike in Niger say they want more children than they actually have – women want an average of nine, while men say they want 11. It's well established, if i am not mistaken, that animals including humans whose offspring has a low survival rate, start to breed a lot. Which somewhat makes sense: If ten out of eleven children die a horrible death, and just one of them survives, the 'selfish gene' has achieved it's goal. Ahhh yeees, isn't live wonderful, isn't it?? Even if it's not very politically correct, the only way I see that could lead out of this, is a state enforced sanctioning of procreation and not to support such drives even more, by a breeding friendly (religious) ideology. |
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30-04-2017
So I think they could train it, by letting it watch millions and millions of porn movies (misogynistic and sexist, of course!) Well, I would call a lot of those movies rather unrealistic. I'm not against porn as long as people keep in mind that in real life sex might be a little ... different? Oh but then there's amateur porn, right? That one is probably the closest to reality, assuming it's the boring non-pervy kind, lol. Anyway, bleh, don't want to talk pervs any more (btw, are pervs considered a discriminated minority group yet? because I might be a bigot for not being inclusive towards all the diversity out there! :P :P :D) So it needs to fuck a lot and the users need to rate its performance Lol, install Windows 10 telemetry :D They should know how to silently send all the private data back to the developers :D It's well established, if i am not mistaken, that animals including humans whose offspring has a low survival rate, start to breed a lot. I've heard that too, and it sounds reasonable. Religion is another contributing factor. |
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Well, I would call a lot of those movies rather unrealistic. I'm not against porn as long as people keep in mind that in real life sex might be a little ... different? Sure they are usually pretty unrealistic. And why not. Realistic sex often doesn't come across so well on screen. So they sell stylized sexual fantasies instead, providing the visual stimulation for at least releasing some pressure (and so will the sex robots of the future). But sure there is a lot room for improvement, as they are often cheaply made, lacking in style, aesthetics and sophistication. So i am dreaming of founding a porn company, hiring highly skilled directors, writers and actors...to do porn. I think there could be a market for that. Hmm..yes i think that this will work out . quote:
ol, install Windows 10 telemetry They should know how to silently send all the private data back to the developers yes, after MS Fuckbot asks about your experience today (like/dislike) they will send the recorded usage data to there servers for further analysis. Let's hope there won't be any data leaks. I can imagine that this could be a bit embarrassing for some people. |
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02-05-2017
Sure they are usually pretty unrealistic. And why not. Fine by me, but not so good for growing kids who haven't yet tried the 'unedited' version of sex. That's the only reservation. But oh well, what you gotta do... not a reason to outlaw porn just because teens today can get access to it no matter what internet nannies their parents install. Then I guess a sex education course would help, explaining everything they might be seeing in movies and commenting on that. I think there could be a market for that. Hmm..yes i think that this will work out ;-). So you have a dream, eh? How inspirational! Good luck with that :D |
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01-05-2017 Even poor people are quick to adopt tech, some with cell phones but no plumbing. I think Marilyn Monrobots, if cheap enough, plus enough men with phones in their pockets to increase sterility, plus herbivore men, may help us bend the population curve. Guys screwing the bot they got for xmas on their 13th birthday surely should keep them from dating crazy girl teens with all of their emotional needs and wanting gifts and dinners and such. And probably the reverse, as well.With robots taking most jobs in the next few years, people will need to be entertained to avoid massive revolts, and sexbots are the answer. With no perceived purpose, they will addictively sex themselves to total self-referential behavior. Only problem I see is some governments may fear a population crash or the end of the human race (which they can't fathom) and start producing people in a bag, born just to effectively consume and have sex with robots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6MiUdwSR4 Surely people will fade out over time, falling to their own addictive sexual desires and to their robot overlords, like rats in a cage hitting the bar over and over again for a heroin high. We are probably the last living generations of unaided animal sex and procreation, and skies free from drone delivery systems and flying cars. The end can't come soon enough for me. |
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02-05-2017
some with cell phones but no plumbing No kidding, I've never had an iPhone, yet some people will be saving up for a year to buy that phone, when they only have 2 pairs of socks, and one sock is missing :P But to buy a lifelike full size sex doll one needs to either live alone or with an approving family members. That's kind of a different level of luxury not many people are able to afford. In those close-tight rural communities in Africa I don't expect people getting themselves a sex doll they can't deflate and burry in the ground :P They'll carry on having sex as usual, especially since religion teaches them to do so. We are probably the last living generations of unaided animal sex and procreation, and skies free from drone delivery systems and flying cars. The end can't come soon enough for me. In the Western world - yes. But the rest of the world living in poverty poverty, will not be buying sex bots perhaps in this century. Aparently, 1.3 billion are living without electricity. Means they don't even own a fridge, even though it's an old invention. So things won't be as revolutionary for them so soon. What I think might take care of the population surplus is another big war or a few of them. That is more likely than population drastically falling because of robots. |
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02-05-2017
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Then I guess a sex education course would help, explaining everything they might be seeing in movies and commenting on that. Critical porn analysis in schools. Yes why not. If I would be a teenage boy I would certainly also not be against it. quote:
So you have a dream, eh? How inspirational! Good luck with that Sure I have dreams. But I think that’s the only one worth perusing. I mean porn...It could be so much more...Enough with this cheaply made fuckedyfappedy crap. People deserve better. If everyone works together, we can make it.. working towards a better world, with better porn. Ahh yes, I am such an idealist. I mean things like that can happen, and I believe do happen more often than people realize. And I am sure that such incidents are heavily under-reported, which makes me think that out of my countless neurotic fears, this is most rational and justified one. And Third: Despite the popular portraiel in porn, I have never met woman who really likes to take it into the back hole. Seems to be more like a man fantasy for whatever reason. Soo the porn I am thinking of, would also be female-friendly. @Kirk: I don't think that the sex robots of the foreseeable future, will be much more than moving, moaning puppets. So the target audience is probably a bit limited: maybe some object sexuals, or people with necrophilic leanings, who wouldn't have a problem sticking their dicks into dead-eyed weirdly moving things. I mean it’s still a long way out of the uncanny valley (if it will ever happen at all). There are more complexities involved that many people (including many engineers) realize. Our current AI (or our approaches) are really relatively simple and limited. There's really not much intelligence in AI. But usually that doesn't matter because our computers became pretty fast, so they can compensate their lack of intelligence with speed. I don't believe any a more believable AI would work like that. And so I don’t think much will change any time soon: people will still fuck with each other, sex workers will not run out of business, and the hillbilly pervs will stick to their goats. Business as usual. But ok, I am one of the people of the who think that real strong generalized AI would not be computable, and no algorithm would lead to that, at least in the usual sense, with our usual kind of computation technology. I think you also need the right 'hardware', and I think we could possibly could create that hardware through synthetic biology. So that would be a way. But all of that is still very much in its infancy. And I believe that a strong generalized AI would also be conscious...so I am against creating one, as this would be a very cruel thing to do. |
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02-05-2017
Sorry my site seemed to have over-parsed your whole reply together with the [quote]d text. But at least nothing is lost, it should display as intended now. I 'll fix it soon! :) Yeah, I never understood the anal craze either, unless in the man who is receiving it, after all that's another way to stimulate the prostate, but for women that's usually not something they enjoy at all. Maybe men who have such fantasies have bisexual/gay urges, nothing wroong with that as long as they find a partner who enjoys it as much as they do. Lol and the 'under-reported' part, LOL, I have just came across this article on the hard life of a male porn star and it is hilariously written and touches upon that nuance as well http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1386-5-reasons-being-male-porn-star-less-fun-than-it-looks.html
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03-05-2017 Kirkquote:
Even poor people are quick to adopt tech, some with cell phones but no plumbing. I suppose toilets and hygiene can wait when it comes to humans... gotta look like somebody important to your neighbors who can't even afford food! Irina quote:
I've never had an iPhone, yet some people will be saving up for a year to buy that phone, when they only have 2 pairs of socks, and one sock is missing Apple really is the master of creating a need that does not exist, and people are clearly taking that advertising tagline way too far! Only Apple could pass off removing the headphone jack as a step forward in innovation, when really the company's just removing basic components to cut their costs, whilst still charging customers the usual premium. Me and my third-world self still using wired headphones... I think I cling to those and removable storage like a European clings to the hope that everyday life will one day go back to the way it used to be. I don't think sex bots will catch on too well either. Nigerians would probably rather make more Muslim babies than deal with sex technology if they had it, and even then they'd say something about how Allah forbids X, Y, and Z. Maybe if they're lucky, sex bots will be a part of a community like the BDSM community and get a special kind of sticky stuff stuck on them in parties, any intelligent robot's dream. VR porn is another hot-button topic too, one I find more feasible than sex bots right now, given that VR isn't as expensive. I was reading about and watching a video on the rubber hand effect not too long ago ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7qpQiwxv1A ), so even if the video or game is not representative of the viewer's own genitalia, perhaps the viewer can feel more like they're really there in the right situation? Add in synchronized sex bots for an even more believable experience, and try to forget how much money you've spent when you could've probably wined and dined a stranger for far less, or had casual anonymous sex with a stranger on Craigslist. Adding to teaching about porn in sex education classes, I think we also need to make room for discussing and preparing for the difficulties of romantic and sexual relationships, something important I think is lacking. |
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08-05-2017
Only Apple could pass off removing the headphone jack as a step forward in innovation, when really the company's just removing basic components to cut their costs Yep, that's such a ridiculous move. Adding to teaching about porn in sex education classes, I think we also need to make room for discussing and preparing for the difficulties of romantic and sexual relationships, something important I think is lacking. Haha, right, when the adults are often not much more sophisticated in those than their kids, maybe a bit more cynical and bitter :P I think, literature is supposed to be the guidelines for that. Classical and contemporary. It's already part of school programs. As is sometimes sex education, in some countries. Not in mine, we only had 1 lesson dedicated to sexual reproduction in humans as part of biology class and that lesson the teacher 'fell ill' so it was turned into a home reading :D |
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03-05-2017 I think sexbots that move and feel and think realistically aren't that far off. I worked as an engineer over the past 4 decades and during my master's work concentrated on AI. The important part is that the way to build AI is to build a program that learns, much like a child's brain, and then expose it and let it learn, only it learns at ever-increasing speeds.We are already doing this. I worked for Texas Instruments in the 90s on voice recognition in its early stages, still having trouble with accents, illness, twins, etc. at only about a 80% recognition rate. With the internet and access to globs of info, voice recognition has moved into the mainstream, services have it everywhere, including operating rooms and more. The curve up is steepening, and combining the work of western robotics with the fascination the Japanese have with weird sex and doll-like women is going to get us there sooner than later, I would say realistic ones by 2030. And with systems to obtain power from natural sources, even in backward villages there will be adopters, maybe even a village owned bot that is shared amongst the men, and women, too. And non-binaries, transgender, and all of the other combinations that seem to be in vogue now. I seen pics of African hunters with spears and cell phones. People want the toys, they will kill for them, and kill once they have them if you take them away. Watch an adult or child that loses or has their phone stolen. They become crazy non-entities, their entire lives fall away before their eyes. It's true addiction. Add that power to sex bots, and you're golden. Totally controlled people. I don't even bother to go into the public much anymore because everyone is glued to their phone, even when taking walks in the park, operating heavy machinery, or taking tennis lessons! I have even experimented with walking into really bad neighborhoods which in the past would immediately attract several men who would confront you, ensuring you belonged there, and then deciding what to do with you. Now they don't even notice, they are too busy staring into their hands! It's coming, and it think it really will have everyone dazed and confused, masturbating with a machine until they die of thirst and hunger, like addicted rats. |
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08-05-2017
I think sexbots that move and feel and think realistically aren't that far off. All I know is that everybody's talking about the AI and the possible threats and benefits. By the sheer number of discussions on the topic it does seem that this thing is coming rather soon. And then there'll be the revenge of the 'abused' sex robots, lol. Remember Futurama again, when the robots rebelled? Haha, that was hilarious! Now they don't even notice, they are too busy staring into their hands! So technology cures bad neighborhoods? ))) I hear there's plenty no-go zones in Sweden... Interestingly, there's no 'bad neighborhoods' in Ukraine, per se. I mean, one would be wise to try and avoid dark alleys, but there's no 'hoods' with local gangs. But sure, people are attached to technology. Maybe because it actually improves on our regular communication? I'm glad it exists because it allows so many people feel less lonely while still avoiding all the generic 'frienships'. It provides entertainment without having to get out of the house and mingle with people, a lot of whom you might not like at all. |
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07-05-2017 hey you.. videos, i want to know what the magic girl thinks, when so much you have thought is so greatly interesting.sex bots, i love your stance. that alleviates natural burdens of the prime directive. and so many, likely most women would be quite accosted. its a pretty sad state of affairs that we are conditioned so hard and for so long that we dont parse out sex as a commodity, when the truth of the matter couldnt be further from our seditious exposition of what is. i dont imagine it would be so unbecoming to just be completely frank about sexuality, to develop it properly and with some success thruout if we could always be honest about it. but as such an intense, awkward, and even about as vile as games go ; this thing that is prepetulantly administered as if always the device of the unyielding and saidly omnipotent wizard of oz. every ploy and deception is nearly the Only type of conveyance of this sport. so, yea.. my thought are really only of emotive expression. not much in the way of factoring analysis or reason too much. but also then again , thats about the body of the game before us anyway. evocation emote, rationale on material good. even if so nature did prescribe. me < yadda yadda ya, blah blah blah.. {cheesy do me baby 80s pop rock vid} https://youtu.be/5PnDcjtYGzI?t=81 .. it kinda works.. 8 ) 8 ) 8 ) |
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12-05-2017
Frankly, I don't think I understood much of what you were trying to say here, Tok, except for the 'yadda yadda ya, blah blah blah..' I suppose :D |
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08-05-2017 Irinaquote:
I think, literature is supposed to be the guidelines for that. Classical and contemporary. I wonder if you were referring to scientific literature, as many women in North America like 50 Shades of Grey and the Twilight saga... so they want BDSM and bestiality? Kidding, kidding! I'm sure Sigmund Freud would've had something to say about females reading those books though! Apparently the sex ed in Ukraine is not too different from the state of Alabama's. The only sex education we had was one day watching a 90's video about what sex was in science class... we didn't learn about contraception, pornography, masturbation, sexual orientation, abortion, etc. Relationships were not mentioned either; it was strict science representing how to get a girl pregnant. It's also interesting how most men in the United States and Canada are circumcised, and the scientific textbooks do not even show the foreskin in their diagrams either, something that certainly confused me growing up. I found this little article comparing England and the Netherlands on sex education and culture interesting for anyone who may want to read it. I can see my culture as being closer to the English one. It's a little outdated, but I found it quite interesting. One of my female friends would make me laugh when she would say, "Wrap it before you tap it!": http://sheu.org.uk/sites/sheu.org.uk/files/imagepicker/1/eh194jl.pdf |
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12-05-2017
hmmm... I'm sort of afraid to ask, but what does "Wrap it before you tap it!" mean exactly? ))) Interesting link. Netherlands don't seem to be shy much at all. I hear they have mixed sex bath houses and parents go together with their kids there. For us here it'd be considered like ... incestuous, I think, generally, it is perceived here, that you're not supposed to see your child (esp. opposite gender) naked once they're old enough to shower on their own, and more importantly, they shouldn't be looking at their parent's private parts. Lol, I guess, right until their folks become so old that they require assistance getting their asses wiped, because people are poor and there's no nursing homes, apart from a few private ones that again, not many can afford. Kind of sad. Getting back to sex though, "many women in North America like 50 Shades of Grey and the Twilight saga... so they want BDSM and bestiality?" - maybe they do? I've never watched nor do I plan to see those things. They just seem to stupid to me. However, I keep seeing memes about this 'Twilight' thing, hehe, seems like it is so dumb that a lot of the other people share my sentiment http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/still-a-better-love-story-than-twilight I hear 50 shades are boring and predictable. And that means they will be to me, because I'm sensitive to that shit. By literature I'd probably mean at least some classics, although there too we often see what psychologists call love addiction, or some dramatic mosachism, but hey, at least they're very accurately portrayed. BTW, today there's more popular psychology books available, there's talk shows, however primitive, there's knowledge out there. Not like that's gonna help everybody, because parents can screw up their kids so much that no school programs or profound books can ever fix that. |
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11-05-2017
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If some men were happily masturbating on a Titanic 10 minutes before it sunk - good for them. Didn't affect the Titanic or other passangers in any way whotsoever.)) Never have you been so wrong: |
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12-05-2017 @Irina"Wrap it before you tap it!" was her slang way of saying to put a condom on (wrap it) before you... you know (tap it). Hey, you asked, and knowledge is power! What you mentioned is what my dad is experiencing right now... I mean, he can wipe his ass fortunately, but it's like they want to bleed you dry of money as the life is bleeding from you. I believe euthanasia should be legalized. If ever I'm 80, both my legs fall off after World War III, and I can't move my arms, I think I should have the option to end my life peacefully, as should anyone else. It amazes me that we have no qualms for putting down an elderly animal in pain, but humans don't even get the option. Some Europeans just don't seem to care about nudity like our societies do... I guess it's normal and a non-issue in some places, although I think they would certainly care if a naked person sat on a public chair and started getting shit everywhere. Plus, a lot of new Muslim men in Europe don't seem to understand that just because a woman shows her skin, it doesn't mean she's “asking for it.” Many Americans would freak out seeing a naked stranger too, and the same goes for a child past a certain age, as you mentioned. Sometimes I think that the taboo only makes more people try to look at others' genitals for some sort of affirmation or a fetish. Let's just say chicken breasts aren't usually a man's favorite type over here. You wouldn't miss anything worthwhile in life by skipping 50 Shades or Twilight, and I remember that meme. My friend also let me read the dirty parts of 50 Shades, and I laughed so hard. This link has some of the best quotes for shits and giggles. I'm sure you've been traumatized enough by life anyways, what could possibly be worse? http://ronleyba.com/50-shades-of-grey-fifty-quotable-quotes/ |
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